[swift-users] Feedback on Swift & "is it ready for general release?"

Kevin Smith kevin at kismith.co.uk
Fri Jul 2 22:02:36 CEST 2010


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Steve Kille <steve.kille at isode.com> wrote:
> Kev asked for "general progress" in the MUC last night.    As I wanted to
> say more than would fit cleanly into an XMPP message,  I decided to write an
> email to the list.    I sensed that Kev would like to hear from everyone who
> has been using Swift, so I thought this might also get the ball rolling (I
> checked this idea with Kev).

Thanks Steve.

> Overall,  I think that you have both done an excellent job here.  <snip>

Thanks.

> I use Swift for my day to day chat and MUC, and it works great.   My only
> personal operational niggle is inability to manipulate groups, but I can
> live without it.

That one's on the known issues list, so we intend to get to it before 1.0.

> I am keen to see 1.0 released, and Swift opened up for wider adoption.
> There is also reason to delay, because if it is released too early, there
> will be feedback "it is too buggy" or "what sort of braindamaged XMPP client
> does not do XXXX", and this sort of feedback and initial reaction tends to
> stick.

Right - that's why even the public beta didn't come until after over a
year of development.

> In my experience, Swift has been very solid.  I reckon that the list of
> "known issues" (http://swift.im/releases/swift-1.0beta4/ ), which I guess
> are intended to be addressed before 1.0 reflects a sensible list of things
> to achieve before making a release (I could live without some of them), but
> there is not a need for much more.

There are a couple of things that will make it more usable for me
(since I finally switched to using Swift as my main client for all my
chat this week - previously I'd used Swift for work and Psi for
everything else) so I don't need to fire up Psi to perform some tasks
that I need frequently.

> It would be interesting to hear views on this, particularly of the form "I
> will start using Swift as my default client when it does XXXX" or "I am
> using it already" or "I will never use it because..."

Yes, this is the sort of thing I'd like to know. I know at least a few
people hanging around the MUC use it as the main client.

> Keep up the good work - I'm looking forward to 1.0

Thanks.

Would anyone else like to share their thoughts on the state of the union?

/K


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